Deep in the bowels of the Principality Stadium in the wake of Wales' humiliating 68-14 defeat to England, interim head coach Matt Sherratt and captain Jac Morgan took their seats in the post match press conference.
This is the custom after every Test match but both individuals should not have had to face the music from the Welsh media alone. Welsh Rugby Union chairman Richard Collier-Keywood and CEO Abi Tierney should have taken the lift down to the media centre to sit next to them.
Welsh rugby is stuck in the doldrums again and Saturday's record Six Nations defeat was the worst result by a Wales side since the 96-13 annihilation by South Africa at Loftus Versfeld in 1998. In fact this was much worse.
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At least in Pretoria back in 1998 it was a Wales side beset by injuries and players making themselves unavailable. At the Principality Stadium on Saturday this was Wales' strongest side but it was still 54 points worse off than England on its own patch.
So, what plans are being put in place to solve Welsh Rugby's problems?
The WRU has been heavily criticised for not publishing its full strategy or announcing a new Professional Rugby Agreement but in reality we actually know what the One Wales strategy is and what the new PRA will entail.
The problem is, it goes nowhere near far enough.
In the latest edition of the Inside Welsh Rugby newsletter, Steffan Thomas examines the problems, the plan there is to fix them and why it is neither bold enough nor brave enough. You can sign up here
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