Wales' record Six Nations defeat to England on a "tragic day" in Cardiff has left Welsh rugby in an "unimaginable place", according to two pundits.
People in different rugby nations have been reacting to the incredible scoreline at the Principality Stadium on Saturday, when England racked up 10 tries to come away with a 68-14 win.
It is the most points ever conceded by a Wales side in Cardiff, and a record Welsh defeat in the Six Nations. It is also their second worst defeat ever after a 96-13 loss to South Africa in 1998. You can read our shocking verdict here.
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Former Wales centre Jamie Roberts said the huge defeat must act as a "line in the sand" for Welsh rugby. Meanwhile, on Virgin Media Sport, Australian pundit Matt Williams said: "It's a tragic day for Welsh rugby. That is almost an unimaginable place where Welsh rugby is at the moment."
Former Ireland full-back Rob Kearney said he actually thought Wales played well in certain parts of the game, but that makes things more worrying given the final score.
"They didn't have an ounce of luck today," he said. "On a different day they had three or four more tries there and the game may have tightened up. The hard thing to say and see in that Welsh performance today is that they played some pretty good rugby at times.
"Some of their attack and their shape was an awful lot better than we've seen in the last 18 months. They just could not live with the power and the physicality of the English team and it's something that this Welsh team just doesn't have."
Kearney was then asked by TV host Joe Molloy if it's particularly worrying that Wales had a "good shape" and were "doing lots of good things" and yet still ended up losing by 54 points.
Kearney responded: "Yes. They're still miles off, and that is the big worrying thing for Wales."